Stephen A. Smith is inarguably ESPN’s biggest on-air personality, but he is also one of the industry’s most polarizing voices. He can be famously combative and boisterous, and sometimes engages in personal feuds with other sports figures such as LeBron James and fellow commentator Jason Whitlock. For his part, Smith responded on his radio show.

This comment led to a surprising and politically charged response from sports commentator Stephen A. Smith. During an episode of her podcast, IMO, which she co-hosts with her brother Craig Robinson, Obama talked about how dramatic sports talk shows can be.